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[#113] Our final special LIVE episode recorded in the spacious gaming area of The Keep in Brick, NJ. This week, Jason, Josey, and Jim welcome another local NJ gamer, Mike Cortese, who brings us an epic horror story that stops at all the Bad Game...
[#113] Our final special LIVE episode recorded in the spacious gaming area of The Keep in Brick, NJ. This week, Jason, Josey, and Jim welcome another local NJ gamer, Mike Cortese, who brings us an epic horror story that stops at all the Bad Game Stations of the Cross.
Hosted by Jason Portizo, Josey Diaz, and Jim Crocker
Produced and Edited by Jason Portizo
Curmudgeons and Dragons is a JTP Audio production
- You can visit The Keep whenever you’re in Central NJ.
- Jason met Mike (and Jim!) on the NJ Dungeons & Dragons Facebook Group.
- The campaign Mike talked about used a Base 8 monetary system
- The Forgotten Realms calendar used 10-day weeks, I guess.
- Jim and Jason hate shopping sessions, but not everyone does (for some reason).
Hosted by Jason Portizo, Josey Diaz, and Jim Crocker
Produced and Edited by Jason Portizo
Curmudgeons and Dragons is a JTP Audio production
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Sometimes talking with friends feels like role
playing. Sometimes it feels like combat.
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Join us at the round table and
roll an ishato. This is Curmudgeons and
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Dragons. Hello adventurers, Welcome to
Courmudgeons and Dragons. I'm Jason Fortiso.
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I enjoyed live by Jim Crocker.
This episode of Commugison Dragons Live is the
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last day he gets to use that. Joe, it only took me five
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episodes to train you to do that, so that's good. I'm really glad
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to be here. I hate being
recepted to training. Cool. Yeah,
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Josie, he has is with me, huh by with us? I mean
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she's very far away in England,
but coming to us live over riverside here
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in the ways that matter. Any
spirit with spirit? And did you imagine
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if I could just haunt you at
this level all the time, you Paris,
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if you taught me all the time, but not to this extent.
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Story today, somebody from our guests, Mike Cortiz, Mike, how you
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doing doing pretty good? How we
all doing? I'm listening with this our
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fifth episode we're recording in a row. We're doing fantastic, living the fucking
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dream, My guy living something we
love having guests live in the dream surviving
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the nightmare. Yeah yeah, so
here you go. I guess that is
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one of our favorite things. So
that's great. This is this is usually
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not like a guest having type of
show, but to have so many this
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month has been great. So thank
you so much for joining us, and
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thanks for us submitting what it seems
to be a completely batshit story that I
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cannot wait to get into. I'm
so ready. So Mike, real quick.
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I met you through the one of
the Facebook groups I believe I met
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you through New Jersey D and D
players. Um ye, seems to be
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a pretty good in active group.
So any other any of the localists want
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to join that? Which is all
I was wondering why we were getting so
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many people from New Jersey. Was
all right, because that was the responded
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to me way way back in the
day. Jason posted a message to that
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group saying, hey, we're losing
someone from our podcast. Anybody might be
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interested in That was how the show
yet from a group? Yeah? Also
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how I found that about the Keep, which is where we're recording from right
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now. This is Go through the
keephobby dot com and support my friendly local
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game store because they are supporting us
by giving us space to record today.
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So thank you to our friends of
the Keep. And you go back and
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listen to the first two episodes this
month where we had Tony and the owner
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not only giving his story but giving
his well, you know, his his
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DND story and then his story,
yeah, about owning stores and stuff like
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that. Really cool episode, so
make sure you go check those out.
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But today we've got Mike with us. Um. So I you sent me,
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but kind of like the TLDR,
which was still like seven paragraphs,
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um, and it just got wilder
and wilder, to the point where one
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of your other players, your friend
Andrew also DMed me to say that whatever
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story you told me, as as
wild as it is, is one hundred
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percent true. So I have to
hear the rest of this, and so
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I'm just gonna I'm gonna back off. I'm gonna let you just kind of
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take it away. So, uh, Mike, the floor is yours,
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all right? Uh? Flow is
that this was probably back in September ish
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of last year. There is a
message on the same group that you and
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I found each other on that an
individual was looking to run a five E
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homebrew campaign looking for players. So
I signed up the person that DMU Andrew
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signed up, and a few other
people signed up. Cool, we're all
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set to play a few weeks before
playing, um, you know, we
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all get together on the on the
thing we're talking and he sends out a
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seventeen page PDF on his world.
Okay, okay, I like it.
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That's dedication, but also like,
oh my god, it is dedication,
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and if it's a strange world,
hey, it could be Okay, it
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could be legit that this is going
to be interesting I've seen or heard of
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longer. So, but that is
like, that's that's not like so no.
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Um. So. The PDF included, but not limited to, certain
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rules that he was going to be
using, such as a new monetary system
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using pieces of eight rather than tens, a new calendar which had six days
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rather than seven, not even the
ten day that D and D is known
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for. Okay, a list of
weapons, all of which did the exact
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same damage with the exact same damage
type. Everything was exact and there was
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no change. It was just the
change of the names of the weapons,
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such as like pistols, using a
baretta, using a nine male, using
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different stuff, all the same damage
type, all the same firearms on top
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of that too, Yeah, firearms
and whatever else, all sorts of different
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stuff. He had a list of
the items that were purchasable in game.
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He had a list of magic items
available in the game, whereas he didn't
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even know what some of these did. Okay, um, and they were
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all available for purchase. Whenever you
got to a town, there's the magic
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store. Just had portals that you
could get stuff from and pick it out.
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Weird stuff. Okay, I'm sure
they'll end up fine, go ahead.
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Yeah. Um. So this seventeen
page pdf was just interesting reading.
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Nothing really came of that session.
Zero comes in and he just he tells
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us it's a kind of a five
E based game, but it's going to
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use mechanics from three point five Pathfighter
two E and five E. So he's
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just built a new game and was
like, come play. Yeah pretty much.
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Yes, Okay, that's exactly that's
exactly how it is. That's exactly
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how it turns. Great, go
ahead, design your design your own game.
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Love it. I'm sure Jim would
play it. So some of these
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mechanics, none of so background on
it. All of the players that came
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into this have never played three point
five or Pathfinder. We're all relatively new
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to D and D five coming from
around twenty nineteen. We all started right
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before Fair three point five and Pathfinder
the same thing, so still yeah,
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Okay, again, I'm not familiar
with that. I haven't played either one
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of those, so I don't know. Yeah. The TLDR on that is
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that Pathfinder was a response to fourth
edition and was essentially kind of a rewrite
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of three to five with a couple
of things, though maybe a little crunchier,
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and that hardcore Pathfinder players will get
cranky if you say it's just three
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point five. Yeah, yeah,
which is the most important party. So
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then I'm guessing you guys are already
familiar with a fortitude save that he wanted
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to put in place, combined with
constitution saves, like an additional saving throw
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that he would use with other that
in addition, so you had your con
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save and then you would have a
fortitude save which had a different a different
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mechanic for calculating that using your constitution
model. Yeah, because in three point
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five you would have fortitude reflex and
will saves as opposed to as opposed to
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just rolling on the stats, which
is the thing that makes the most sense.
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Yeah, right, so he wanted
to implement that as an additional saving
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thrown. Oh my god. He
also had different calculations for your AC,
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whereas he would on his armors.
He just made different armors have different modifiers.
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Then you would add ten and that's
your AC bonus. And instead of
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the traditional five E disadvantage on stealths, you would have a movement penalty if
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you weren't proficient, okay, which
did not make sense to us, as
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you're not supposed to use armors that
you're not proficient. I'm already I would
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have been out of this game,
like, I'm so sorry, I'm too
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stupid, too stupid day. So
he again in this list that he had
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it in his pdf, he had
the different armors listed. This armor has
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a plus one, this armor has
a plus two, all the way up
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to like a plus nine for your
AC. So the calculation was ten plus
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whatever the armor modifier was, that's
your base AC. And again these were
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all purchasable at a shop. The
strange things really started to take place during
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the campaign. In the throes of
the campaign, we had some interactions with
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NPCs that my character as the I
rate asshole. Yes, I was the
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problem player started calling this guy a
different name in a in a way and
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kind of made the DM turn him
into like a mafia don. Okay,
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so far, I'm in. So
eventually this mafia don became a benefactor and
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allowed us to purchase go to the
stores and purchase things at his expense,
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not hours. Okay. So basically
we got the run of the mill of
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every Magic guy and we wanted every
armor. We wanted everything within the first
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three sessions. Okay, so what
did you end up with? I was
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playing an artificer, so I ended
up with like a nineteen AC nine plus
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nine armor. Then with all the
infuse, Um, I'm sorry, what
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is the artificer thing? Yeah,
it is infusion. Ended up with like
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an AC of like twenty one,
twenty two somewhere around there. Level three.
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Yeah, yeah, that's great.
God, sorry, had he had
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rings of invisibility, We had all
sorts of stuff, and he had no
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idea where this stuff was. It's
like he had never played five he before
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or even read the DMG. Probably
didn't probably not. Um, Well,
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the DMG wouldn't help if he's building
out of three different games. Oh yeah,
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tree, but it would still give
you a basis on what these magic
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items are supposed to do. God
okay, but initially we were supposed to
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have five pieces, myself um,
the one who messaged you, Andrew,
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Um, we had Bill CJ.
And then there was supposed to be Kate.
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Kate for whatever reason backed out last
minute, but due to she was
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unable to commit to playing, but
would still end up showing up every now
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and then on this on the discord
that we were playing on m HM,
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just just to hang out, just
like a lurker. We love a lurker,
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a lurker and having her camera on
still as well. Okay, I'll
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picture that happened in like an IRL
game, Like I was like, yeah,
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I can't make it tonight, and
then they just show up at your
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house and just watch you play at
the table, just watch. Yeah,
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it was. It was definitely weird
because she would come in at strange times
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and you hear the escort ding ding
and there she is, well him as
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she wouldn't mute herself either, so
whatever she's got going on in the background,
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children screaming her driving her car having
almost an upskirt view of underneath the
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steering wheel while she's driving down the
road. Very distracting, very distracting of
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this at that point, just listen
to an actual play podcast. You don't
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have to You don't have to subject
people to the going abouts of your life.
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Yeah, he had, the DM
had, you know, spoken to
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us about our what our characters are, you know, the individual session zeros
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along with the session zero for all
the PCs. Apparently, over the course
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of his with another one of the
players, the DM decided to give one
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of the PCs a strange colored birthmark
without telling the PC what it was about
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or anything about it. Then,
when it came time for him to describe
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his character, the DM said that
there was someone with a birthmark, and
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when the PC did not respond,
that's your que dude, excuse me,
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Oh my gosh. So, by
the way, you got this birthmark.
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Now it's like, well, yeah, if it's a birthmark, shouldn't I
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know about it? Right? Yeah? Um, let's have a birthmark and
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more of the last five minutes mark, like if it's on if it's on
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your back, and you know,
with like D and D technology, you
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would never see it. You would
only have to take people's word for it
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that it was there, right,
yeah, I honestly don't remember where it
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was. I honestly I think it
may have been on his neck, like
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like something like right over here,
yeah, or something I can't quite remember,
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but that that's not the egregious one. The egregious one is where he
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changes a PC's race prior to a
session, just for from it, from
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a human to a damn fear.
So like mid game or before you started
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playing, UM mid game? Oh
okay, did he have did he have
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an explanation or was he just hoping
you were going to roll with it?
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He had an explanation for it.
But this happened to a PC who UM
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was brand new to the game,
had never played before our first session,
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and missed UM all sessions in between, so that it was only their second
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ever session. What the fuck?
Okay? Apparently they did have a conversation
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about it, but the DM did
not tell this this person what it meant
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for their character, what abilities they
would have, anything about it. It's
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a major change. Just expected him
to know. I are you impressed yet,
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Josie? I am. Let's see. Uh yep, strange color birthmark?
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Uh human to a dam fear.
I'm so glad you have a list.
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I had to, I had to
do something. They would just be
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all over the place. I made
bullet points of everything that I told you.
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But there's more to it. Oh
my god. Um. For whatever
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reason, and I still don't understand
this, he wanted the cleric of the
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party to either choose religion or medicine
as their base of healing, like he
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wanted to change up the cleric class. Put his own spin on things.
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Yeah, put his own spin on
things. If it ain't broke, my
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guy, Oh he broke everything.
Oh god, Okay, all right,
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things are so broken you have to
break other things that they work in this
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new broken system, right, Hey, that's gotta be it. Um.
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We there was an entire session that
was a shopping day now as it was
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just RP and shopping. There was
a little bit of RP, but not
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very much, just a shopping day
list. I don't mind like five minutes
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of like trying to talk to a
ShopKeep if the shop keeps interesting. But
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this is why I hate shopping.
Yeah, man, you and I are
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on so much on the same page
that between sessions, well on record hating
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shopping in game. And this is
why, because it turns through a whole
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fucking day. And let me guess
most of that time was spent with them
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haggling and not getting anywhere. No, most of the time it was him
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looking at his notes finding out how
much everything cost. We had a bad
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shopping trip, and it wasn't the
player's fault. Yes, he had a
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notebook, and he showed multiple times
on screen, you know, a notebook
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entirely that thick of all of his
notes of every shop, everything, everywhere,
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alphabetized, different menus, different things
of how much everything cost, to
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the point where when an NPC we
were going into a colosseum and he described
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that there were vendors up and down
the sides of the street. Entering the
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colisseum, saying that there were food
vendors, an NPC asked what do they
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serve? He took five minutes outside
of game to go and find specific as
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to find out what they were selling
and how much it costs to answer his
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own question, yes, my god, no, no, no, I'm
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sorry, the the PC asked this, not an NPCs still ridiculous, him
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still ridiculous to find out, you
know, take ten five, five,
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five or ten minutes whatever it took
for him to find these in his notes.
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Yeah, if you're gonna have um
a binder full of your new game
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to play, you should probably have
some tabs to make it a little easier
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for yourself, right, thinking like
five five whole minutes flipping through pages just
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to be like be like, oh, yeah, they have falafel today.
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Pretty I mean, was was it
that or was it like, well,
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this vendor has falafel which you can
order in three sizes. You can get
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it with or without Tazeki sauce.
You can get it with fries or without
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steak fries, your season fries.
Like was it I think granular level of
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detail? That's yeah, that's so
much. He did so much work they
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did. He did so much work
at one point stress At what point does
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prep turn into mental illness? I
think is the question that we're trying.
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This is the line I'll try trying
to figure out. Oh my god,
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see our last episode about the importance
of keeping your mental health outs are in
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the game game. So so here's
here's Mike. Here's what I'm curious about,
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Like, there must have been something
compelling about the game that kept you
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playing through all of this or was
it just like like it hit that tipping
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point where you're like, I just
we gotta stick around just to see what
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happens next, like like sunk cost
fallacy baby yeah, or like like like
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watching the like like not being able
to look away from the train wreck kind
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of thing. I think it's a
little bit of not being able to walk
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away from the train wreck and find
out what There's got to be something to
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this story and the third part of
it has to lead somewhere. Fees doing
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this for the Falafel stand. Imagine
when we get to the big battle,
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but what it's going to be,
like that's it that battle will be.
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And not to mention that I was, um, I think I was just
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coming off being a d M in
a campaign and I just wanted to play
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as a as a PC for a
little while. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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and having the idea of my PC
um imbued into my head just stamps right
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in there. And I love the
character. I just wanted to continue playing
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character. Yeah yeah, yeah.
This is this is where it really starts
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to get batshit crazy with this spectator. So it's just the same spectator or
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us a new spectator, No,
the same spectator from moving Okay, So
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I mentioned that she would pop in
at strange times, you know, leave
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the mic on, leave the camera
on. So right after session four,
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the day after our fourth session,
she comes into our discord text chat and
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says that um, she and the
DM have gotten messages about foul language use
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in the discord. Now here's here's
here's a quick thing about that. We
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were not using what the hell is
it? We were on a video We
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were on a video call very similar
to what we are now. Okay.
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We were not in a we were
not in a server. We were in
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a at a video voice chet like
like like a room like a breakout,
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right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were. We were in a
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group DM voice video chat. Okay, yes, we were in discord.
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Um and she this person claims that
they had gotten a message about foul language,
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saying that if it were to continue, we would all get a band.
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Yeah, I've been in discord service
before. That's not true. Were
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not We were not in a server. Sure, we were just in Okay.
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So, Josie, I know your
next question, and you're like,
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well, how is that possible?
It is not. Okay, I'm just
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making sure I'm not the crazy one. No, you're not the crazy one.
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Okay. So and and she kept
with this. So over we played
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every two weeks when we were playing
UM. So over the course of the
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two weeks, I do my research
and I find out that her what is
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spewing from her craw is absolute horseshit, and I completely plan out on calling
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her bullshit out the next session whenever
she was in. So the next session
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comes in, she's not there.
UM and I have the good graces of
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the rest of the PCs. We're
all talking back and forth throughout the whole
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time, saying, we all know
this is bullshit. So we talked to
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the DM and we say, all
right, we come to what we have
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a fifteen minute civilized discussion. So
for next time, for this session,
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we will do as she asks.
But for next session, we will build
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our own server, set it to
age appropriate so that there is no thing
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that can go wrong, so that
we can do we can play as we
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want. Yo, that's it,
That's what we'll do. The DM starts
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his recap of the previous session and
she comes in. She says to us,
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now, we are all grown adults
in this game. Grown. We
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are all for own adults out at
least twenty nine years old and up.
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She says to us, she's not
going to be in, but she's going
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to be monitoring us for a foul
language. If she finds any or here's
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any is going to take us aside
and talk to us about it, and
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if it continues after that, is
going to put us in a time out
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and immediately leaves the chat. Oh
suck my dick, Oh my god,
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shit, we flip shit coming into
that and telling us that bullshit. No,
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we're done with you. So we'd
take a ten minute break to cool
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off. And I have a separate
server that I have played on for other
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you know, D and D play
you through as before. So I send
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everyone minus her an invite so that
we could play in mind, not have
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to deal with her fucking bullshit,
and we could play as we want.
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Cool. Everything's hunky dory. We
get in now. On the previous session,
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we knew we were going to be
accosted. We were on a ship
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that was being bombarded by other people, so we knew immediately we were going
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to be in combat. So that's
the first thing that happens, is we
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getting to combat. It's seven on
four, not bad odds. Two rounds
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in. He brings in other NPCs
that are of significantly higher CR rating we
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have we probably have a combined total
of around one hundred hip points. Ish.
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Each one of these new ones has
at least one hundred each. So
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he had he had this on Albert
Rodeo so, and he had their hit
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points listed so we could see what
they were using. And I so we
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knew we saw their hip points,
saying we knew what was going on.
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I knew where this character class was
coming from because I tried to help him
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develop a character class for what was
going on, what he wanted to do
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in here. So I knew exactly
where these were coming from, and I
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knew that they were at least level
twelve whereas we were level three. Yeah
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yep, So but for why why
what was the point of that? Hang
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on? I'm getting to it.
So only a couple rounds of combat in
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Everyone's Dead, my character has one
hit point, jumps off the front of
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the boat, flips off the middle
finger, and away we go naturally into
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the drink because he tp hate us
and ends the campaign. What the hat?
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It was New Year's Eve? What
the okay? It was New Year's
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New Year? Yeah, new year, new campaign? Yeah whatever? He
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asked me, as I was the
last one in the discord, if I
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would like to play again? What'd
you say? Maybe I would like this
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game to continue so we can get
more content out of it. Each of
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each of these, each of these
individually could have been an episode. Oh,
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I'm still trying to process all of
this information. He puts so much
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work into into world building to such
an extreme level, only to be like,
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now you're all dead and system creation. Don't forget that part. Yeah,
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he built a new five type of
sessions, five five sessions that was
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only five. Wow, that's impressive
for five does a whole lot of horror.
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So a lot of time. So
I don't know. You got you
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got your you got your your cheaching
in front of you. So we've got
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a very long backstory m or very
very long like like world building, Uh,
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required reading pdf document lots of world
building is great, required reading multiple
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page document. Stop, I'm not
going to do it. Maybe what's that'll
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be? Like? Wait, I
don't understand. Is that Duke new Coomb.
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He's like that's a lot of words. Too bad, I'm not reading
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them. Yeah, you get one
paragraph and done. Yeah, I'll give
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you. I'll give you a page. Yeah, and if it's great front
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and back. Um, so that's
that's number one. Then we got a
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mishmash of lots of different systems guarantee
taking the worst of each one. Yeah,
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okay, we got charts and graphs
uh, filling up entire binders that
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you can't sort through. Um,
every every item available to you at all
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times, whether or not you deserve
it, completely breaking everything, which is
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fine because he didn't read the rules
and doesn't know how bad they actually are
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for the game. Um weapons that
are all redundant. Uh, and that's
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just the game itself. Then we
got a I'm even gonna say, a
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player, she didn't even play,
just a nuisance, just someone coming in,
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just a hall monitor they want to
show up, a troll. Yeah,
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it's literally just somebody to come in
and be like me, me me,
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me me me ye. Unfortunately she
wasn't random. She was supposed to
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be the dam's girlfriend. Well,
that explains how we got lays a lot.
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Actually, yeah, it actually kind
of explains for me why the campaign
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ended after you were like, let's
move away from here. Huh yeah,
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yeah, why he blew it up
at that point. Yeah, I didn't
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want to assume that was the case, but like the whole time, I'm
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thinking that's gonna be the case.
Yeah. That was my first question was
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were they Oh yes, they were
in Okay. She she wanted a she
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wanted like a squeaky clean server and
couldn't get it. I am no,
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she was not going to get it
with me. Yeah no, and not
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mynas Yeah. Ridiculous. Uh So, luckily that game is far is well
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well over by this point. Oh
yeah, well over. Are you in
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better games now? Um? Actually
I am dming a Lost Mine of fan
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Delver campaign for the other PCs that
were in that group, along with a
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few others, and fantastic story.
Yeah, giving them a good campaign.
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One of the morals of the story
is that if you want to be assured
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of a good game, you run
it yourself. That's yeah. And that
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was one thing that I told him
I did not want, as I said,
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one of the pcason that had only
played two sessions. Yea, ever,
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I want right in the morning and
there's a lizard person. Yeah.
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Yeah, I Lost Mines is such
a good one for new players too.
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Yes, that's that that worked out
really well. Um yeah, the story
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is absolutely nuts. Um like,
uh, yeah, it's absolutely delivered.
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So they forgot the worst part though, which was that they did a full
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session shopping montage. Oh, because
I blocked it from my memory. A
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full session of shopping God. Oh
that's yeah, I blocked that out.
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That was that. I'm still stunned. Honestly. Good for you. You
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put up with a lot of shit. I don't know how I just did.
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I just wanted to play my character
because I thought he was cool.
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Mike, when you got to the
young said, it was only five sessions
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for all of that. That was. It packed a lot of bad into
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a very little bit. Time.
Is the Horror Story speed Run? Sort
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of a yeah? Yeah kind of? Yeah? That that that the Horror
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Story Speed Run? Yeah that's a
title. Um. Uh the character that
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you that you kept it? You
said you're stuck around because you enjoy your
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character. Uh. Is that character
involved in your in your current game?
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Ums? Not currently okay, UM, somewhere he is saved. That character
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will make an appearance somewhere and has
made an appearance somewhere as UM one of
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the PCs in the campaign that I'm
running. UM for a one shot d
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M something for me and another player
and brought that character to life in that
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in that in that one shot,
we'll make sure that character is okay.
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Oh yeah, no, yeah,
that character is great, great, survived.
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Hell, he's got to stay alive. Off the starboard bow, you
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see someone clinging to a piece of
driftwood. He seems to be giving the
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sun, giving the sun a finger. He's swearing at the sharks that are
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swimming around him. Mike, thanks
so much for your story, man,
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Thanks for coming on, Thanks for
listening. Um, thank you for having
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me. Yeah yeah, very cool. Thanks for actually responding to to my
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call for stories. I'm gonna throw
us out there. I couldn't let that
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one pass up. Couldn't let that
pass so glad you didn't know what a
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story about. I'm gonna throw this
out there to anybody who wants to come
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on and tell their story, or
at least just send us their story.
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We can read it for you if
you're If you're camera shy, and that's
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cool too, but I love to
be performative. Go reach out to us.
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Adventuring my Friends,
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Sometimes talking with friends feels like role
playing. Sometimes it feels like combat.
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Join us at the round table and
roll an ishato. This is Curmudgeons and
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Dragons. Hello adventurers, Welcome to
Courmudgeons and Dragons. I'm Jason Fortiso.
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I enjoyed live by Jim Crocker.
This episode of Commugison Dragons Live is the
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last day he gets to use that. Joe, it only took me five
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episodes to train you to do that, so that's good. I'm really glad
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to be here. I hate being
recepted to training. Cool. Yeah,
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Josie, he has is with me, huh by with us? I mean
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she's very far away in England,
but coming to us live over riverside here
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in the ways that matter. Any
spirit with spirit? And did you imagine
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if I could just haunt you at
this level all the time, you Paris,
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if you taught me all the time, but not to this extent.
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Story today, somebody from our guests, Mike Cortiz, Mike, how you
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doing doing pretty good? How we
all doing? I'm listening with this our
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fifth episode we're recording in a row. We're doing fantastic, living the fucking
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dream, My guy living something we
love having guests live in the dream surviving
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the nightmare. Yeah yeah, so
here you go. I guess that is
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one of our favorite things. So
that's great. This is this is usually
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not like a guest having type of
show, but to have so many this
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month has been great. So thank
you so much for joining us, and
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thanks for us submitting what it seems
to be a completely batshit story that I
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cannot wait to get into. I'm
so ready. So Mike, real quick.
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I met you through the one of
the Facebook groups I believe I met
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you through New Jersey D and D
players. Um ye, seems to be
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a pretty good in active group.
So any other any of the localists want
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to join that? Which is all
I was wondering why we were getting so
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many people from New Jersey. Was
all right, because that was the responded
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to me way way back in the
day. Jason posted a message to that
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group saying, hey, we're losing
someone from our podcast. Anybody might be
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interested in That was how the show
yet from a group? Yeah? Also
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how I found that about the Keep, which is where we're recording from right
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now. This is Go through the
keephobby dot com and support my friendly local
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game store because they are supporting us
by giving us space to record today.
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So thank you to our friends of
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listen to the first two episodes this
month where we had Tony and the owner
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not only giving his story but giving
his well, you know, his his
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DND story and then his story,
yeah, about owning stores and stuff like
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that. Really cool episode, so
make sure you go check those out.
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But today we've got Mike with us. Um. So I you sent me,
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but kind of like the TLDR,
which was still like seven paragraphs,
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um, and it just got wilder
and wilder, to the point where one
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of your other players, your friend
Andrew also DMed me to say that whatever
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story you told me, as as
wild as it is, is one hundred
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percent true. So I have to
hear the rest of this, and so
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I'm just gonna I'm gonna back off. I'm gonna let you just kind of
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take it away. So, uh, Mike, the floor is yours,
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all right? Uh? Flow is
that this was probably back in September ish
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of last year. There is a
message on the same group that you and
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I found each other on that an
individual was looking to run a five E
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homebrew campaign looking for players. So
I signed up the person that DMU Andrew
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signed up, and a few other
people signed up. Cool, we're all
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set to play a few weeks before
playing, um, you know, we
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all get together on the on the
thing we're talking and he sends out a
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seventeen page PDF on his world.
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That's dedication, but also like,
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and if it's a strange world,
hey, it could be Okay, it
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could be legit that this is going
to be interesting I've seen or heard of
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longer. So, but that is
like, that's that's not like so no.
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Um. So. The PDF included, but not limited to, certain
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rules that he was going to be
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using pieces of eight rather than tens, a new calendar which had six days
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rather than seven, not even the
ten day that D and D is known
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for. Okay, a list of
weapons, all of which did the exact
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same damage with the exact same damage
type. Everything was exact and there was
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no change. It was just the
change of the names of the weapons,
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such as like pistols, using a
baretta, using a nine male, using
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different stuff, all the same damage
type, all the same firearms on top
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of that too, Yeah, firearms
and whatever else, all sorts of different
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stuff. He had a list of
the items that were purchasable in game.
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He had a list of magic items
available in the game, whereas he didn't
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even know what some of these did. Okay, um, and they were
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all available for purchase. Whenever you
got to a town, there's the magic
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store. Just had portals that you
could get stuff from and pick it out.
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Weird stuff. Okay, I'm sure
they'll end up fine, go ahead.
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Yeah. Um. So this seventeen
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Nothing really came of that session.
Zero comes in and he just he tells
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us it's a kind of a five
E based game, but it's going to
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use mechanics from three point five Pathfighter
two E and five E. So he's
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just built a new game and was
like, come play. Yeah pretty much.
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Yes, Okay, that's exactly that's
exactly how it is. That's exactly
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how it turns. Great, go
ahead, design your design your own game.
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Love it. I'm sure Jim would
play it. So some of these
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mechanics, none of so background on
it. All of the players that came
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into this have never played three point
five or Pathfinder. We're all relatively new
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to D and D five coming from
around twenty nineteen. We all started right
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before Fair three point five and Pathfinder
the same thing, so still yeah,
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Okay, again, I'm not familiar
with that. I haven't played either one
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of those, so I don't know. Yeah. The TLDR on that is
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that Pathfinder was a response to fourth
edition and was essentially kind of a rewrite
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of three to five with a couple
of things, though maybe a little crunchier,
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and that hardcore Pathfinder players will get
cranky if you say it's just three
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point five. Yeah, yeah,
which is the most important party. So
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then I'm guessing you guys are already
familiar with a fortitude save that he wanted
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to put in place, combined with
constitution saves, like an additional saving throw
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that he would use with other that
in addition, so you had your con
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save and then you would have a
fortitude save which had a different a different
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mechanic for calculating that using your constitution
model. Yeah, because in three point
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five you would have fortitude reflex and
will saves as opposed to as opposed to
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just rolling on the stats, which
is the thing that makes the most sense.
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Yeah, right, so he wanted
to implement that as an additional saving
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thrown. Oh my god. He
also had different calculations for your AC,
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whereas he would on his armors.
He just made different armors have different modifiers.
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Then you would add ten and that's
your AC bonus. And instead of
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the traditional five E disadvantage on stealths, you would have a movement penalty if
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you weren't proficient, okay, which
did not make sense to us, as
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you're not supposed to use armors that
you're not proficient. I'm already I would
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have been out of this game,
like, I'm so sorry, I'm too
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stupid, too stupid day. So
he again in this list that he had
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it in his pdf, he had
the different armors listed. This armor has
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a plus one, this armor has
a plus two, all the way up
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to like a plus nine for your
AC. So the calculation was ten plus
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whatever the armor modifier was, that's
your base AC. And again these were
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all purchasable at a shop. The
strange things really started to take place during
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the campaign. In the throes of
the campaign, we had some interactions with
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NPCs that my character as the I
rate asshole. Yes, I was the
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problem player started calling this guy a
different name in a in a way and
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kind of made the DM turn him
into like a mafia don. Okay,
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so far, I'm in. So
eventually this mafia don became a benefactor and
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allowed us to purchase go to the
stores and purchase things at his expense,
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not hours. Okay. So basically
we got the run of the mill of
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every Magic guy and we wanted every
armor. We wanted everything within the first
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three sessions. Okay, so what
did you end up with? I was
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playing an artificer, so I ended
up with like a nineteen AC nine plus
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nine armor. Then with all the
infuse, Um, I'm sorry, what
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is the artificer thing? Yeah,
it is infusion. Ended up with like
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an AC of like twenty one,
twenty two somewhere around there. Level three.
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Yeah, yeah, that's great.
God, sorry, had he had
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rings of invisibility, We had all
sorts of stuff, and he had no
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idea where this stuff was. It's
like he had never played five he before
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or even read the DMG. Probably
didn't probably not. Um, Well,
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the DMG wouldn't help if he's building
out of three different games. Oh yeah,
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tree, but it would still give
you a basis on what these magic
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items are supposed to do. God
okay, but initially we were supposed to
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have five pieces, myself um,
the one who messaged you, Andrew,
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Um, we had Bill CJ.
And then there was supposed to be Kate.
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Kate for whatever reason backed out last
minute, but due to she was
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unable to commit to playing, but
would still end up showing up every now
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and then on this on the discord
that we were playing on m HM,
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just just to hang out, just
like a lurker. We love a lurker,
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a lurker and having her camera on
still as well. Okay, I'll
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picture that happened in like an IRL
game, Like I was like, yeah,
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I can't make it tonight, and
then they just show up at your
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house and just watch you play at
the table, just watch. Yeah,
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it was. It was definitely weird
because she would come in at strange times
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and you hear the escort ding ding
and there she is, well him as
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she wouldn't mute herself either, so
whatever she's got going on in the background,
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children screaming her driving her car having
almost an upskirt view of underneath the
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steering wheel while she's driving down the
road. Very distracting, very distracting of
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this at that point, just listen
to an actual play podcast. You don't
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have to You don't have to subject
people to the going abouts of your life.
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Yeah, he had, the DM
had, you know, spoken to
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us about our what our characters are, you know, the individual session zeros
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along with the session zero for all
the PCs. Apparently, over the course
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of his with another one of the
players, the DM decided to give one
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of the PCs a strange colored birthmark
without telling the PC what it was about
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or anything about it. Then,
when it came time for him to describe
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his character, the DM said that
there was someone with a birthmark, and
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when the PC did not respond,
that's your que dude, excuse me,
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Oh my gosh. So, by
the way, you got this birthmark.
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Now it's like, well, yeah, if it's a birthmark, shouldn't I
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know about it? Right? Yeah? Um, let's have a birthmark and
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more of the last five minutes mark, like if it's on if it's on
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your back, and you know,
with like D and D technology, you
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would never see it. You would
only have to take people's word for it
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that it was there, right,
yeah, I honestly don't remember where it
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was. I honestly I think it
may have been on his neck, like
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like something like right over here,
yeah, or something I can't quite remember,
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but that that's not the egregious one. The egregious one is where he
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changes a PC's race prior to a
session, just for from it, from
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a human to a damn fear.
So like mid game or before you started
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playing, UM mid game? Oh
okay, did he have did he have
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an explanation or was he just hoping
you were going to roll with it?
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He had an explanation for it.
But this happened to a PC who UM
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was brand new to the game,
had never played before our first session,
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and missed UM all sessions in between, so that it was only their second
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ever session. What the fuck?
Okay? Apparently they did have a conversation
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about it, but the DM did
not tell this this person what it meant
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for their character, what abilities they
would have, anything about it. It's
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a major change. Just expected him
to know. I are you impressed yet,
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Josie? I am. Let's see. Uh yep, strange color birthmark?
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Uh human to a dam fear.
I'm so glad you have a list.
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I had to, I had to
do something. They would just be
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all over the place. I made
bullet points of everything that I told you.
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But there's more to it. Oh
my god. Um. For whatever
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reason, and I still don't understand
this, he wanted the cleric of the
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party to either choose religion or medicine
as their base of healing, like he
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wanted to change up the cleric class. Put his own spin on things.
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Yeah, put his own spin on
things. If it ain't broke, my
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guy, Oh he broke everything.
Oh god, Okay, all right,
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things are so broken you have to
break other things that they work in this
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new broken system, right, Hey, that's gotta be it. Um.
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We there was an entire session that
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just RP and shopping. There was
a little bit of RP, but not
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very much, just a shopping day
list. I don't mind like five minutes
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of like trying to talk to a
ShopKeep if the shop keeps interesting. But
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this is why I hate shopping.
Yeah, man, you and I are
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on so much on the same page
that between sessions, well on record hating
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shopping in game. And this is
why, because it turns through a whole
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fucking day. And let me guess
most of that time was spent with them
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haggling and not getting anywhere. No, most of the time it was him
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looking at his notes finding out how
much everything cost. We had a bad
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shopping trip, and it wasn't the
player's fault. Yes, he had a
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notebook, and he showed multiple times
on screen, you know, a notebook
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entirely that thick of all of his
notes of every shop, everything, everywhere,
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alphabetized, different menus, different things
of how much everything cost, to
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the point where when an NPC we
were going into a colosseum and he described
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that there were vendors up and down
the sides of the street. Entering the
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colisseum, saying that there were food
vendors, an NPC asked what do they
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serve? He took five minutes outside
of game to go and find specific as
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to find out what they were selling
and how much it costs to answer his
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own question, yes, my god, no, no, no, I'm
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sorry, the the PC asked this, not an NPCs still ridiculous, him
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still ridiculous to find out, you
know, take ten five, five,
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five or ten minutes whatever it took
for him to find these in his notes.
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Yeah, if you're gonna have um
a binder full of your new game
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to play, you should probably have
some tabs to make it a little easier
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for yourself, right, thinking like
five five whole minutes flipping through pages just
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to be like be like, oh, yeah, they have falafel today.
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Pretty I mean, was was it
that or was it like, well,
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this vendor has falafel which you can
order in three sizes. You can get
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it with or without Tazeki sauce.
You can get it with fries or without
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steak fries, your season fries.
Like was it I think granular level of
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detail? That's yeah, that's so
much. He did so much work they
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did. He did so much work
at one point stress At what point does
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prep turn into mental illness? I
think is the question that we're trying.
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This is the line I'll try trying
to figure out. Oh my god,
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see our last episode about the importance
of keeping your mental health outs are in
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the game game. So so here's
here's Mike. Here's what I'm curious about,
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Like, there must have been something
compelling about the game that kept you
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playing through all of this or was
it just like like it hit that tipping
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point where you're like, I just
we gotta stick around just to see what
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happens next, like like sunk cost
fallacy baby yeah, or like like like
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watching the like like not being able
to look away from the train wreck kind
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of thing. I think it's a
little bit of not being able to walk
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away from the train wreck and find
out what There's got to be something to
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this story and the third part of
it has to lead somewhere. Fees doing
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this for the Falafel stand. Imagine
when we get to the big battle,
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but what it's going to be,
like that's it that battle will be.
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And not to mention that I was, um, I think I was just
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coming off being a d M in
a campaign and I just wanted to play
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as a as a PC for a
little while. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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and having the idea of my PC
um imbued into my head just stamps right
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in there. And I love the
character. I just wanted to continue playing
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character. Yeah yeah, yeah.
This is this is where it really starts
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to get batshit crazy with this spectator. So it's just the same spectator or
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us a new spectator, No,
the same spectator from moving Okay, So
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I mentioned that she would pop in
at strange times, you know, leave
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the mic on, leave the camera
on. So right after session four,
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the day after our fourth session,
she comes into our discord text chat and
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says that um, she and the
DM have gotten messages about foul language use
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in the discord. Now here's here's
here's a quick thing about that. We
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were not using what the hell is
it? We were on a video We
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were on a video call very similar
to what we are now. Okay.
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We were not in a we were
not in a server. We were in
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a at a video voice chet like
like like a room like a breakout,
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right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were. We were in a
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group DM voice video chat. Okay, yes, we were in discord.
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Um and she this person claims that
they had gotten a message about foul language,
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saying that if it were to continue, we would all get a band.
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Yeah, I've been in discord service
before. That's not true. Were
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not We were not in a server. Sure, we were just in Okay.
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So, Josie, I know your
next question, and you're like,
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well, how is that possible?
It is not. Okay, I'm just
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making sure I'm not the crazy one. No, you're not the crazy one.
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Okay. So and and she kept
with this. So over we played
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every two weeks when we were playing
UM. So over the course of the
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two weeks, I do my research
and I find out that her what is
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spewing from her craw is absolute horseshit, and I completely plan out on calling
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her bullshit out the next session whenever
she was in. So the next session
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comes in, she's not there.
UM and I have the good graces of
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the rest of the PCs. We're
all talking back and forth throughout the whole
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time, saying, we all know
this is bullshit. So we talked to
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the DM and we say, all
right, we come to what we have
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a fifteen minute civilized discussion. So
for next time, for this session,
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we will do as she asks.
But for next session, we will build
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our own server, set it to
age appropriate so that there is no thing
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that can go wrong, so that
we can do we can play as we
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want. Yo, that's it,
That's what we'll do. The DM starts
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his recap of the previous session and
she comes in. She says to us,
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now, we are all grown adults
in this game. Grown. We
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are all for own adults out at
least twenty nine years old and up.
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She says to us, she's not
going to be in, but she's going
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to be monitoring us for a foul
language. If she finds any or here's
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any is going to take us aside
and talk to us about it, and
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if it continues after that, is
going to put us in a time out
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and immediately leaves the chat. Oh
suck my dick, Oh my god,
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shit, we flip shit coming into
that and telling us that bullshit. No,
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we're done with you. So we'd
take a ten minute break to cool
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off. And I have a separate
server that I have played on for other
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you know, D and D play
you through as before. So I send
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everyone minus her an invite so that
we could play in mind, not have
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to deal with her fucking bullshit,
and we could play as we want.
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Cool. Everything's hunky dory. We
get in now. On the previous session,
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we knew we were going to be
accosted. We were on a ship
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that was being bombarded by other people, so we knew immediately we were going
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to be in combat. So that's
the first thing that happens, is we
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getting to combat. It's seven on
four, not bad odds. Two rounds
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in. He brings in other NPCs
that are of significantly higher CR rating we
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have we probably have a combined total
of around one hundred hip points. Ish.
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Each one of these new ones has
at least one hundred each. So
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he had he had this on Albert
Rodeo so, and he had their hit
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points listed so we could see what
they were using. And I so we
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knew we saw their hip points,
saying we knew what was going on.
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I knew where this character class was
coming from because I tried to help him
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develop a character class for what was
going on, what he wanted to do
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in here. So I knew exactly
where these were coming from, and I
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knew that they were at least level
twelve whereas we were level three. Yeah
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yep, So but for why why
what was the point of that? Hang
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on? I'm getting to it.
So only a couple rounds of combat in
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Everyone's Dead, my character has one
hit point, jumps off the front of
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the boat, flips off the middle
finger, and away we go naturally into
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the drink because he tp hate us
and ends the campaign. What the hat?
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It was New Year's Eve? What
the okay? It was New Year's
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New Year? Yeah, new year, new campaign? Yeah whatever? He
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asked me, as I was the
last one in the discord, if I
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would like to play again? What'd
you say? Maybe I would like this
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game to continue so we can get
more content out of it. Each of
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each of these, each of these
individually could have been an episode. Oh,
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I'm still trying to process all of
this information. He puts so much
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work into into world building to such
an extreme level, only to be like,
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now you're all dead and system creation. Don't forget that part. Yeah,
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he built a new five type of
sessions, five five sessions that was
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only five. Wow, that's impressive
for five does a whole lot of horror.
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So a lot of time. So
I don't know. You got you
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got your you got your your cheaching
in front of you. So we've got
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a very long backstory m or very
very long like like world building, Uh,
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required reading pdf document lots of world
building is great, required reading multiple
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page document. Stop, I'm not
going to do it. Maybe what's that'll
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be? Like? Wait, I
don't understand. Is that Duke new Coomb.
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He's like that's a lot of words. Too bad, I'm not reading
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them. Yeah, you get one
paragraph and done. Yeah, I'll give
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you. I'll give you a page. Yeah, and if it's great front
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and back. Um, so that's
that's number one. Then we got a
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mishmash of lots of different systems guarantee
taking the worst of each one. Yeah,
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okay, we got charts and graphs
uh, filling up entire binders that
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you can't sort through. Um,
every every item available to you at all
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times, whether or not you deserve
it, completely breaking everything, which is
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fine because he didn't read the rules
and doesn't know how bad they actually are
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for the game. Um weapons that
are all redundant. Uh, and that's
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just the game itself. Then we
got a I'm even gonna say, a
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player, she didn't even play,
just a nuisance, just someone coming in,
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just a hall monitor they want to
show up, a troll. Yeah,
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it's literally just somebody to come in
and be like me, me me,
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me me me ye. Unfortunately she
wasn't random. She was supposed to
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be the dam's girlfriend. Well,
that explains how we got lays a lot.
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Actually, yeah, it actually kind
of explains for me why the campaign
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ended after you were like, let's
move away from here. Huh yeah,
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yeah, why he blew it up
at that point. Yeah, I didn't
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want to assume that was the case, but like the whole time, I'm
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thinking that's gonna be the case.
Yeah. That was my first question was
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were they Oh yes, they were
in Okay. She she wanted a she
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wanted like a squeaky clean server and
couldn't get it. I am no,
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she was not going to get it
with me. Yeah no, and not
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mynas Yeah. Ridiculous. Uh So, luckily that game is far is well
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well over by this point. Oh
yeah, well over. Are you in
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better games now? Um? Actually
I am dming a Lost Mine of fan
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Delver campaign for the other PCs that
were in that group, along with a
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few others, and fantastic story.
Yeah, giving them a good campaign.
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One of the morals of the story
is that if you want to be assured
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of a good game, you run
it yourself. That's yeah. And that
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was one thing that I told him
I did not want, as I said,
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one of the pcason that had only
played two sessions. Yea, ever,
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I want right in the morning and
there's a lizard person. Yeah.
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Yeah, I Lost Mines is such
a good one for new players too.
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Yes, that's that that worked out
really well. Um yeah, the story
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is absolutely nuts. Um like,
uh, yeah, it's absolutely delivered.
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So they forgot the worst part though, which was that they did a full
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session shopping montage. Oh, because
I blocked it from my memory. A
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full session of shopping God. Oh
that's yeah, I blocked that out.
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That was that. I'm still stunned. Honestly. Good for you. You
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put up with a lot of shit. I don't know how I just did.
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I just wanted to play my character
because I thought he was cool.
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Mike, when you got to the
young said, it was only five sessions
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for all of that. That was. It packed a lot of bad into
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a very little bit. Time.
Is the Horror Story speed Run? Sort
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of a yeah? Yeah kind of? Yeah? That that that the Horror
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Story Speed Run? Yeah that's a
title. Um. Uh the character that
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you that you kept it? You
said you're stuck around because you enjoy your
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character. Uh. Is that character
involved in your in your current game?
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Ums? Not currently okay, UM, somewhere he is saved. That character
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will make an appearance somewhere and has
made an appearance somewhere as UM one of
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the PCs in the campaign that I'm
running. UM for a one shot d
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M something for me and another player
and brought that character to life in that
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in that in that one shot,
we'll make sure that character is okay.
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Oh yeah, no, yeah,
that character is great, great, survived.
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Hell, he's got to stay alive. Off the starboard bow, you
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see someone clinging to a piece of
driftwood. He seems to be giving the
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sun, giving the sun a finger. He's swearing at the sharks that are
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swimming around him. Mike, thanks
so much for your story, man,
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Thanks for coming on, Thanks for
listening. Um, thank you for having
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me. Yeah yeah, very cool. Thanks for actually responding to to my
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call for stories. I'm gonna throw
us out there. I couldn't let that
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one pass up. Couldn't let that
pass so glad you didn't know what a
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story about. I'm gonna throw this
out there to anybody who wants to come
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on and tell their story, or
at least just send us their story.
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We can read it for you if
you're If you're camera shy, and that's
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cool too, but I love to
be performative. Go reach out to us.
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Curmudgeons and Dragons pot at gmail dot
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us. Everything we do is on
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Mike anything. Are you doing anything
you plug anything or uh or just I
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don't do anything. I just have
some of my fancy some of the stuff
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that I'm into, m D and
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or Dungeon Run. Yeah, I'm
sorry, don't you run enough familiar with
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but nad pod to listen to daily. So Michael, thank you so much,
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James, Josie as always, thank
you so gay so much for being
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on the show with me and keeping
this thing going. And thank you adventurers,
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